Star Potential
In the Star Potential podcast, host Julie Jo Hughes, a musical and theatrical performer, explores themes of self-identity, authenticity, and living in the present moment. Driven by a personal journey of reclaiming her voice and worth beyond external pursuits, Julie Jo aims to illuminate paths for other seekers of self actualization. Each week, the podcast features real talk on radical responsibility, recognizing our patterns for growth and evolution, meaningful conversation with insightful guests, and playful stories from onstage and offstage. Julie Jo invites listeners to embrace their true essence and bring more play into their daily lives as we learn to tap into our infinite potential.
Star Potential
What's True Doesn't Need Defending
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What if the thing you feel the need to defend… isn’t actually under threat at all?
In this episode, we explore the connection between identity, perception, and presence—and how the lens you’re seeing through shapes everything.
When you’re operating from survival mode, the world feels personal.
When you shift into presence, you begin to see connection instead of threat.
This conversation will help you recognize when you’re reacting from protection, how to return to a grounded state, and why true strength often looks like softness, patience, and understanding.
You don’t need to be right. You don’t need to be understood.
You just need to stay in what’s true.
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When you feel the need to defend yourself, something in you feels threatened. But what if what you're protecting isn't even real? Welcome to Star Potential, the podcast for curious, soul-led humans who know there's more available who want to explore it with depth, joy, and a little play. Here we talk about reclaiming your authentic voice, shedding old identities, and expanding into who you're becoming without taking yourself too seriously. I'm your host, Julie Jo Hughes. Let's get curious, let it be fun, see what ignites. Welcome back to Star Potential. I'm your host, Julie Joe, and I love talking to you about the benefits of looking inward, of doing the inner work that is going to bring you this level of presence that begins to reveal so much to you about yourself, but also about others. When you have a deeper level of awareness for what's going on with yourself, then you're able to see and accept those pieces as just part of who you are, part of your experience. Each of those parts doesn't necessarily define you, but it is a part of you that wants to be seen, heard, acknowledged, and accepted. When we learn to do that with ourselves, then we begin to see these pieces of ourselves in the people around us as well. And when we have already acknowledged and accepted those parts of ourselves, even though sometimes they're not our favorite parts, then we have a deeper capacity to have the compassion and the understanding for those parts when they come out of someone else as well. And what you'll start to notice is that when you don't have presence, you don't have patience, you don't have the capacity to see from a higher perspective, that's when we tend to operate a little bit more from survival mode. When we're operating in survival mode, we're seeing through a thicker lens than what we would look through when we have a little bit more awareness. And it's not better or worse. It's it's just a different perspective. And so when we are coming from a fight or flight nervous system, when we're coming from any kind of survival mode, we can't see very far ahead of us. We can just, it's like you have blinders on. You can just see what's right in front of you. And that is often heavily filtered through your own experience, what you're going through. You're not able to take your own identity, your personal identity that you cling so hard to, because when you're in survival mode, you're seeing yourself as separate from everything else around you. And when we do that, lots of things around us can be considered a threat. You see, when you're not in survival mode and you're able to have that little bit of higher perspective, you recognize that everything is just so connected that you're not actually separate from anyone or anything. It's all part of a collective experience. It's all a shared reality. And when you're able to see from that kind of a lens, you just don't take things as personally. When we're not so latched to that personal identity, this is who I am, which is separate from you and separate from all of this, then you can't see that. When you're able to see from that higher vantage point, you go, oh wow, this is actually how this is all connected. And I couldn't see that before. If I can take my personal identity out of it, then I'm able actually to see all of this with so much more compassion, patience, and understanding. So it's almost like it slows down time for you. When you enter a room, you automatically have a higher perception. It's like you have more antennae. It's like they're more tuned in to what's happening with the energy in the room, with the people in the room. And when someone comes at you with some kind of attitude or something, if you're really stuck like clinging to this personal identity of who you are, and you don't want that to be threatened, and the person comes at you with some kind of attitude, then you immediately feel the need to defend who you are and your position. But love and what's true doesn't feel the need to defend. It sees where this person is coming from and says, ah, I can see how that's true for you based on the lens you're looking through, based on that identity that you're clinging so hard to right now. I can see how it feels like I'm a threat to you. And that's why you're coming at me. But because I can see this from a higher vantage point, I don't need to also be threatened by the fact that you're threatened. So now you have a chance to actually prevent something from escalating. If two people are coming at each other and they're both stuck in this personal identity, then they're just going to be butting heads, trying to defend their own personal stance. But if even one of you is able to see from that higher vantage point, ah, I can see how I'm being perceived as a threat because this person sees me as separate from them, sees that what I'm saying is potentially a threat to what they're saying, then we can discharge the power that it's being met with a little bit. And if this side is coming really fast and this side softens, then now you've just de-escalated the situation. So when we're able to have that patience and compassion from for where someone is coming from, that doesn't make you weak. That's not a sign of weakness, that's actually a sign of strength. Because I don't feel the need to defend myself. Now we might actually be able to come to some sort of agreement to be able to have a civil conversation about this. So that's not weakness. That's not backing down. That's not not having the balls to stand up for what you believe. That's being able to see when somebody has blinders on and what they need from you is actually understanding and love and patience, not fists. So you can begin to apply this theory, so to speak, in your life when you notice that you're in some kind of an aroused state. Maybe you've had a busy day and you get that text message in that's just one more thing that kind of puts you over the edge. If you feel yourself like in a heightened state, wanting to reply to that, that is the time to set the phone down, walk away, and come back later when you've had a chance to breathe and bring yourself back to neutral. Because there's this funny thing that happens that when you're in one state and you read a message, you're seeing it through that filter. And you're going, how dare they? I cannot believe they said that about me. And then you go back later, and this time you're calm and you're neutral, and you read the message again. And this time, even though it's the exact same words, you go, Oh, maybe that wasn't a personal attack on me. I can see how I took it that way because I was already feeling like I was behind today, or whatever. But actually, this person is just really clinging to their identity as a person who gets their things done. And they saw that me not responding to them yet on this is a threat to them keeping their reputation of their identity or whatever. But now you're able to see that. And so you don't need to also take it personally. Sometimes we think that people are saying things that they're not actually saying. When we read between the lines, it's funny how we all can interpret what's behind those words so differently, depending on the state of being that we're in when we bring ourselves to reading that message. So when you find yourself in a state of feeling really offended or needing to defend yourself, just remember that what is true needs no defense. So if you're really feeling the need to defend yourself, instead of doing that, that's an opportunity for you to pause and reflect and ask yourself, what is it that's being threatened in my identity right now that I feel the need to defend myself? What is what is this claim making about me that I feel is untrue and needs to be defended? Because if it really is untrue, usually you don't actually need to say that. You can just stand in who you are and let your actions speak louder than your words. This is where we turn the other cheek. It doesn't mean I walk away from a fight because I'm afraid I couldn't defend myself or whatever. It means I recognize that you're coming from a place right now that is asking me for a fight, and I'm not willing to give you that. Because guess what? When you lower yourself to that, it doesn't hurt the other person. It's only hurting you. And why do you want to come down and play in that energy? Yuck. Who wants to be in a fighting energy? It just doesn't feel good, right? It feels contracted, it feels tense, stiff. It doesn't, and not in a good way. It doesn't feel like fluid, warm, open. What feels better? Warm, fluid, open, or tight, closed off, defending. I mean, let's try this right now. I want you to squeeze your shoulders up to your ears. I want you to grit your teeth and just hold everything really tight in your face for five seconds. Okay, now let that go. I want you to part your teeth. I want you to stick your chest out, and I want you to open your arms up wide as far as you can and just open up your chest, stretch your arms out wide to the side. Which of those made you feel more calm? Which of those just felt better? Which one made you feel more alive? Maybe one could feel maybe maybe the tightness makes you feel activated, but does that really make you feel alive? Sometimes I think that people can be in such a hard place or a stuck place that they're looking for anger or something to help them feel more alive when they don't realize that there's been an open door behind them all the time. To feel more alive, you actually just need to open up more. You don't need to close off harder. So the next time somebody sends you an email or a text message that rubs you the wrong way and you're feeling the need to defend yourself, pause, ask, what am I clinging to in my identity that I feel needs defended? And then be with that for a little bit. When you're able to breathe, walk it off, do something that brings you back to neutral, or even better, to a place of understanding of where the other person is coming from, then you're able to meet them with compassion. And when we're able to do that, we're always the floor is wide open for possibilities. If you come back also with tightness and fists ready to punch, then we pretty much know where it's going, right? But when you come with open arms, open heart extended, the possibilities for where that conversation and where the opportunities can go from that are really limitless. It still could be that person feeling the need to defend themselves. But what if you actually open up something not only for yourself, but for them too? That doesn't have to be your motivation. Come back to yourself. What would I want? Do I want to feel good about my interaction with this person, or do I want to feel like, yeah, there, I won. That might feel good in the moment, but in the long run, it doesn't actually feel good. At the end of the day, the intention is not to be fully understood. It's actually to be able to get along with each other. We're we're all here learning the same lessons. We learn them in our own circumstances, on our own timelines, but we're all here going through this earthly human experience to learn basically the same topics of lessons. And when you can look at it from that perspective, you see that nobody is like ahead of or behind you. We're all just choosing our curriculum in whatever order it makes the most sense for our life. And so maybe a lesson that you learned when you were five, somebody else isn't learning that lesson until they're 55. But they learned a lot of other lessons early in life that you're just now coming upon that chapter and going, oh wow, I didn't, I didn't even realize that I didn't know this. I didn't know that was a thing to learn. You know? And when we have compassion for the fact that we're all in the school of life, we're all learning every day, then you start to see your interactions with all these different types of people and all the relationships you have in your life as opportunities to understand yourself better, opportunities to be able to work with others better, because we get a lot further, a lot faster when we work together. When we're all butting heads, it's not helping anyone get anywhere. It's definitely not helping yourself. Energy goes where our focus is. And if your focus is only on defending yourself and your position so that you are understood, then life is going to keep offering you opportunities to have to defend yourself, to feel really connected to that identity that you're trying to protect. When you put your energy instead on looking for ways to understand yourself and others, then life also gives you those opportunities of sometimes difficult people. You're perceiving them as difficult, right? But when you can change the lens upon which you're looking at that interaction, you see, ah, this is a chance for me to understand something new. There's something here in this for me. And when I am able to set my prideful ego aside, I can see that this person is just trying to do the same thing that I was doing. Let me diffuse that situation. If somebody accuses me of not reading an email or not following instructions, it strikes a chord in me because I am very thorough and I know I read all the directions and you did not put it in there. But instead of calling that person out and saying, no, you didn't, you didn't put those instrictions in there, I've learned to instead thank them for pointing it out to me. I don't need to say, well, you didn't actually tell me that the first time. It's just not necessary. I want to get along with people. So instead, I will just say, great, thank you. That's all that needs to be said. I don't need to prove anything. And the sooner you get there, things just start feeling more fun. They it it even becomes becomes funny to you when you see somebody working so hard to defend and protect their identity or their ego, it becomes laughable. You're like, oh my God, it's funny how hard you work at making sure that you are right. You know, that's that's really important to you. But you can laugh it off and instead just uh not be the person that's doing the same thing. The truth is that you don't need to win the moment. You just need to stay present in yourself. Because when you do that, when you choose presence over protection, everything changes. Your conversations change, relationships change, the way you move through the world changes. So the next time you feel the need to defend yourself, just pause and come back to yourself, to what's really true, not what you're perceiving between the lines through your lens. And remember that what's true doesn't need defending, it just needs you to stand in it. I'm so glad that you're here growing with me. And until next time, Starlight, keep expanding, growing your edges. I'll see you next time. If something in this episode lit you up or sparked a little curiosity, you might be in the middle of a soul shift of your own. I created a free quiz called Are You in a Soul Shift to help you explore where you are and what's opening next. Just go to juliejohughes.com slash quiz or find the link in the show notes. And if you're enjoying the show, would you please leave a quick rating or review? It helps create a ripple to reach other curious souls. Until next time, stay curious and let yourself play.
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